"You are consulted by a Dr Quist..."
Feb. 19th, 2010 12:16 pmI'm writing an exam paper for my patent law course and have just recycled part of the plot of a Doomwatch episode (or rather the novel it was expanded into). I wonder if any of my students will notice?
(Very probably not, considering that most of them weren't born until the late 1980s. Certainly I had to explain that I'd based the scenario of one of my tutorial problems on an even earlier film.)
(Very probably not, considering that most of them weren't born until the late 1980s. Certainly I had to explain that I'd based the scenario of one of my tutorial problems on an even earlier film.)
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Date: 2010-02-19 12:28 pm (UTC)I set an exam question last semester based on this scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, as follows:
Sadly, only two students attempted the question.
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Date: 2010-02-19 12:35 pm (UTC)Perhaps your students refused to work with your axioms?
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Date: 2010-02-19 12:45 pm (UTC)Less hard than it looks - there are no existential quantifiers, so there's no need to perform skolemisation (introducing constants to represent "the dog that must exist", etc).
No idea why they didn't try it, because it's a pretty straightforward question once you've learned the basic principles, and easy to get full marks.
In a previous year, I asked the students to express the phrase "Lions and tigers live only in Kenya" in a description logic, and had a couple of students complain on the exam paper that they were unable to get this earworm out of their heads.
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Date: 2010-02-19 06:03 pm (UTC)Gaah. I am now trying to convince myself that I do not need to go hunting for a refresher course.
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Date: 2010-02-19 07:16 pm (UTC)The corollary trick with skolem constants is understanding that, if you're told that a dog exists, it's okay to assume that it's your dog.
If you want a refresher, you're welcome to a copy of my teaching notes. Does this make me an enabler?
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Date: 2010-02-19 02:25 pm (UTC)/1066andallthatquote
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Date: 2010-02-19 12:35 pm (UTC)- Did he disclose his invention before patenting it by wearing the white suit? (No, not if he doesn't actually disclose the process for making the fabric, and his patent application relates to that.)
- Is the following a suitable description of the process: “The fabric is made by reacting trinitrotoluene with dimethyl mercury, chlorine trifluoride and other ingredients in the presence of a catalyst at low temperatures and high pressures.” (No, it is woefully insufficient to teach another skilled practitioner how to work the invention.)
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Date: 2010-02-19 01:01 pm (UTC)That mixture of ingredients would amount to the most serious industrial hazard known to man! No wonder this invention has never made it out of the lab (except as dangerously poisonous fragments after the explosion that killed the lead researcher and their entire team, as well as most of the company's headquarters staff).
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Date: 2010-02-19 01:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-19 02:21 pm (UTC)Have you ever read an industrial chemist's blog on Things I won't work with? I am particularly impressed by Chlorine Tetrafluoride, which is described as 'Hypergolic with everything, including industrial chemists' and will ignite and burn quite cheerfully if spilt into a bucket of sand.
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Date: 2010-02-19 03:30 pm (UTC)"It is, of course, extremely toxic, but that's the least of the problem. It is hypergolic with every known fuel, and so rapidly hypergolic that no ignition delay has ever been measured. It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers, not to mention asbestos, sand, and water — with which it reacts explosively. It can be kept in some of the ordinary structural metals-steel, copper, aluminium, etc.-because of the formation of a thin film of insoluble metal fluoride which protects the bulk of the metal, just as the invisible coat of oxide on aluminium keeps it from burning up in the atmosphere. If, however, this coat is melted or scrubbed off, and has no chance to reform, the operator is confronted with the problem of coping with a metal-fluorine fire. For dealing with this situation, I have always recommended a good pair of running shoes."
Clark goes on to describe an accident another research team had that involved spilling a ton of the stuff. It eat through a foot of solid concrete and three foot of gravel. One of its endearing qualities is that when it ignites on meeting your flesh, one of the combustion products is hydrofluoric acid, which dissolves bone and stimulates pain receptors. CTF, it's the gift that keeps on giving...
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Date: 2010-02-19 06:05 pm (UTC)That passage from Ignition! is widely quoted (and misquoted) but I have so far failed to obtain a copy of the book.
Obtaining it without ending up on anyone's database of potential terrorists would be a useful thing.
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Date: 2010-02-19 02:26 pm (UTC)Although I'm told that some of the items that feature in your own researches would constitute a serious Work Safety hazard, if they could be procured and examined in the laboratory. Feel free to write the COSHH assessment for a type IIa, or a Gamma-Ray Burster.
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Date: 2010-02-19 02:39 pm (UTC)It's something I'll have to think about sometime!
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Date: 2010-02-19 06:10 pm (UTC)I expect a lump of neutronium much less massive than a neutron star is indistinguishable from a very efficient fission bomb. The devil, of course, is in the detail: precisely how much less is the question!
(Things I would hate to see from inside the same solar system: a 100% efficient fission explosion involving, say, a lump of neutronium a metre or so in diameter. On the order of planetary mass, in other words.)
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Date: 2010-02-19 06:37 pm (UTC)Of course the same arguments apply to White Dwarf electron degeneracy supported matter, only without the radiological issues. I suspect this is the basis for the electron degeneracy bombs mentioned in some of Al Reynolds' work, but then he used to work on pulsars so would know.
This could all make an interesting exam question at some point in the future...
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Date: 2010-02-19 06:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-19 06:44 pm (UTC)The first inefficiency would be incomplete 'burnup' with very little of the fuel undergoing any fusion at all in a smaller bomb - and even in a larger one, an outer shell would simply be thrown off.
The second inefficiency would be nuclear synthesis, consuming energy in the formation of heavier elements at the core: I have no idea whether this is significant or not though. We'd need to ask a physicist, with some knowledge of supernovae, for estimates.
Overall, you'd get lots and lots of neutrons - like a 'Neutron Bomb', leaving buildings standing (actually, they don't), which is a very inefficient fusion bomb that discards half it's 'neutron budget' into the environment instead of fusing more nucleii or fast-fissioning the tamper.
Nevertheless, you're right in saying that a great deal of electromagnetic energy would be released if a small-ish neutronium body was 'de-confined'. But if you could build something to confine it in the first place, you might've built some *really* scary weapons.
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Date: 2010-02-19 10:05 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-02-19 11:02 pm (UTC)The scary thing about David's electron-degenerate matter is that it's easier to manipulate and confine than neutron-degenerate matter. Admittedly, there are issues with generating magnetic fields that powerful - if they can impose electron-degeneracy, they can rip apart any conceivable conductor that generated them - But we are, at least, speculating about known physics rather than handwaving about materials or forces which remain outside all known theory.
A prediction: if ever we get up-close to a white dwarf and observe electron-degenerate matter, we'll observe weird, wacky, off-the-wall phenomena, every bit as unexpected as the discovery of superconductivity.
If you experience the following symptoms, you may have ingested trace quantities of Neutronium
Date: 2010-02-19 06:24 pm (UTC)The Hazard sheet would need to list the risk of immediate implosion (of the laboratory and staff, and planet) into a thin layer of matter on the surface of the sample, followed by an intense burst of X-rays and the ejection of said laboratory, staff, etc into the surrounding space.
This raises interesting questions as to the most appropriate choice of protective gloves.
Specifying the container might be challenging: I'd just list a value for minimum tensile strength (for sub-stable samples requiring assisted confinement) and compression-resistance required to sustain the container against collapse onto the surface of the sample. This sidesteps impertinent questions about the laboratory, staff, and planet collapsing onto the container).
The best material would surely be neutronium but I suspect that this suggestion is unhelpful.
Radiological hazards... Your turn, I think.
Extreme radiological hazard
Date: 2010-02-19 11:48 pm (UTC)Further, what if the impact split the neutron star up, hard enough that none of the fragments had the necessary gravity to exist as neutronium, and reverted to ordinary matter before the body could recombine?
Just one large fragment might dump enough energy into the remaining neutronium to destabilise it in a chain reaction that would liberate the entire mass in a very short time.
As weapons go, that's one for the BIG space opera.
Actually, unstable neutron stars are going to be rare: they form in an extremely energetic phase of stellar evolution, and I cannot see an unstable star surviving the process.
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Date: 2010-02-20 01:03 pm (UTC)Re: Extreme radiological hazard
Date: 2010-02-20 07:16 pm (UTC)Also from Known Space: interesting things you can do with scrith - a material with a tensile strength of the same order as the strong nuclear force. It might be just the thing for confining neutronium! It might even be neutronium, spread very thin; which raises the possibility that some arcane catalyst causes catastrophic disassembly.
The difficulty writing a coherent novel with this wonder stuff in it is not that it makes interesting things possible; it's that it makes everything possible and far too easy, wiping out the need for half the things you want your characters to do...
Re: Extreme radiological hazard
Date: 2010-02-20 08:05 pm (UTC)Pick a massive star near the end of its life. Build a couple of scrith mirrors for the poles of the star, and a whole bunch of panels in eliptical orbits that will converge around the star, forming a very close ringworld around it. Use them to capture and pump a good chunk of the star's radiation back into the star. Wait for the supernova, then lase, baby, lase!
Note that at a distance of about 30 AU from a supernova, the neutrino flux is so intense that you could be hiding behind Jupiter and you'll still pick up a fatal radiation dose. And that's after doing the inverse square fandango over a spherical surface with radius measured in trillions of metres.
(The point about a neutrino laser is that nothing stops it. Except, ahem, scrith. What happens when a layer of scrith gets very hot, very fast? Paging Larry Niven ...)
Re: Extreme radiological hazard
Date: 2010-02-20 09:03 pm (UTC)Also: I need to look up the interaction rates for neutrinos encountering ordinary matter. Stopping 50% (was that the number I read in Ringword?) of all neutrinos is WTF territory - Super Kamoikande detected one or two per hundred billion.
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Date: 2010-02-19 01:23 pm (UTC)And of course you link to the book, which I hadn't noticed...