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There was a scene in Day of the Doctor that was not only lovely in its own right but, I suspect, may be laying the groundwork for resolving an increasingly awkward bit of Who continuity.
Eleven: I could retire and be the curator of this place.
Curator (off screen): You know, I really think you might.
(The Curator, who has Four's voice and is clearly an aged version of Four, enters. Eleven look astonished, gets up and inspects the Curator)
Eleven: I never forget a face.
Curator: I know you don't. And in years to come you might find yourself revisiting a few. But just... the old favourites, eh?
(Eleven smiles in seeming understanding and winks)
And a few lines later:
Curator. If I were you... (laughs, then repeats in an amused tone) If I were you... Perhaps I was you of course. Or perhaps you are me.
The implication is clear. The Curator is the Doctor, but not Four. Rather, he is a future incarnation of the Doctor who has regenerated back into Four's form, and subsequently aged.
Why would the Doctor do this? It's been shown that in voluntary regenerations Time Lords can choose their form (Romana I to Romana II), while Night of the Doctor showed that sufficiently advanced technology can guide a regeneration. The Curator's comment suggests that perhaps as the Doctor goes on he seeks to use such techniques to revisit his past incarnations.
However, we've not yet had a clear get-out of the '12 regenerations' rule. But that has been evaded before (e.g. by the Master) and it's entirely possible - indeed, necessary, if the show is to continue, that the Doctor will get around it; Capaldi isn't going to play Twelve for ever. I am guessing that before too long (maybe even in the Christmas Special, as this seems to deal with the Doctor's fate) we will see some plot development that has the effect of giving the Doctor a new set of regenerations. It might even be mentioned that, for some arm-waved reason, the Doctor may now be able to choose his form, or at least to choose to regenerate into the form of a previous incarnation.
Eleven: I could retire and be the curator of this place.
Curator (off screen): You know, I really think you might.
(The Curator, who has Four's voice and is clearly an aged version of Four, enters. Eleven look astonished, gets up and inspects the Curator)
Eleven: I never forget a face.
Curator: I know you don't. And in years to come you might find yourself revisiting a few. But just... the old favourites, eh?
(Eleven smiles in seeming understanding and winks)
And a few lines later:
Curator. If I were you... (laughs, then repeats in an amused tone) If I were you... Perhaps I was you of course. Or perhaps you are me.
The implication is clear. The Curator is the Doctor, but not Four. Rather, he is a future incarnation of the Doctor who has regenerated back into Four's form, and subsequently aged.
Why would the Doctor do this? It's been shown that in voluntary regenerations Time Lords can choose their form (Romana I to Romana II), while Night of the Doctor showed that sufficiently advanced technology can guide a regeneration. The Curator's comment suggests that perhaps as the Doctor goes on he seeks to use such techniques to revisit his past incarnations.
However, we've not yet had a clear get-out of the '12 regenerations' rule. But that has been evaded before (e.g. by the Master) and it's entirely possible - indeed, necessary, if the show is to continue, that the Doctor will get around it; Capaldi isn't going to play Twelve for ever. I am guessing that before too long (maybe even in the Christmas Special, as this seems to deal with the Doctor's fate) we will see some plot development that has the effect of giving the Doctor a new set of regenerations. It might even be mentioned that, for some arm-waved reason, the Doctor may now be able to choose his form, or at least to choose to regenerate into the form of a previous incarnation.
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Date: 2013-11-25 10:18 am (UTC)witches of EndorSisterhood of Karn will start to bottle their "you can choose your regeneration form" potion from the mini-episode "Night of the Doctor"no subject
Date: 2013-11-24 03:07 pm (UTC)The return of Galifrey (provided it doesn't mess up The End of Time) ought to be interesting. My guess, the "common" Time Lords get saved, the High Council doesn't.
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Date: 2013-11-25 05:24 pm (UTC)Hmmm....
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Date: 2013-11-24 03:17 pm (UTC)Although tenant did regenerate into himself at one point, so technically smith is already the 13th regeneration. And that all assumes Hartnell was number 1.
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Date: 2013-11-24 04:10 pm (UTC)It might even be mentioned that, for some arm-waved reason, the Doctor may now be able to choose his form, or at least to choose to regenerate into the form of a previous incarnation.
Or maybe, regenerating into a previous incarnation some of the time is one of the limits of the process, not one of the perks; that would explain why he chooses that other than "introspection".
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Date: 2013-11-24 04:11 pm (UTC)I'd put it more strongly than that - the rule was introduced specifically in order to be broken. Before The Deadly Assassin there had been no suggestion that Time Lords have a finite number of lives, and pretty much exactly the first time we hear about it we learn that the Master has found a way to circumvent it. Indeed, that's the main plot of the story - all that business with the presidential assassination is just a distraction to enable the Master to get access to the Eye of Harmony in order to get some more lives. And the next time we see him is in The Keeper of Traken, where he's attempting something very similar with another big energy source.
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Date: 2013-11-25 10:46 am (UTC)May I suggest Greek letters: so classic Who is 'alpha' to 'eta', McGann is 'theta' (although potentially confusing as Tom Baker's Doctor had a 'theta' nickname), Hurt is just a small 'iota', which is easy to remember, and new-Who is 'kappa', 'lambda' and 'mu'. Capaldi will the 'nu' Doctor. Assuming we get through another 11 for the next 50 years, the 100th Anniversary will see the introduction of 'omega' and a very neat loop back to the first anniversary special, "The Three Doctors".
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Date: 2013-11-25 11:21 am (UTC)There is a theory that, as The Doctor actually died this time without regenerating (and was apparently dead for quite some time - however long it took the Sisterhood to recover his body from the wreckage and then bring him back to life), all the rules have changed (again).
So, The War Doctor could actually be the first of a new set of 12 regenerations, which would make Matt Smith number 4 and Peter Capaldi number 5.
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Date: 2013-11-25 01:25 pm (UTC)