Date: 2002-12-15 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ang-grrr.livejournal.com
I watched a lady yesterday drive into an almost full car park and swing in to park RIGHT ACROSS two parking spaces. If she was in a mercedes I'd have understood it a little, but she was in a clapped-out little fiesta.

My passenger stopped me from saying something to her.

Listening to "Home Truths" a few weeks ago I sympathised with John Peel who was amazed at the apparent ill-health of all those shopping with him in the supermarket. Not a disabled bay was empty yet everyone looked sprightly enough.

Most annoying of all. Mothers who push their prams out into the road in front of them to stop oncoming traffic.


Date: 2002-12-15 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purpletigron.livejournal.com
But all these things benefit the people who are doing them - easier parking, etc. Reason enough, I feel, however `immoral'. Sorry :-(

Date: 2002-12-15 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ang-grrr.livejournal.com
I don't know why you are apoligising to ME. ;)

What I find strange is the lack of empathy. The whole "eveyone else is doing it, why shouldn't I?" generation. I while back I had a real moral dilemma about not paying for something and the attitude of a lot of people was "Why are you worried, no-one else is."

I could never park in a disbled space because I would imagine, all the way around the store, an elderly lady falling over in those extra few yards. Maybe it is just me.

Date: 2002-12-16 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purpletigron.livejournal.com
What I'm saying is, that empathy is a variable quantity/quality in people, just like everything else. When someone says, "I just can't understand why people do/don't...", you could call that reaction in itself a lack of empathy on both sides.

It isn't just you, but everyone has different priorities. I don't find it at all surprising that some people put themselves first most of the time - we all have to put ourselves first some of the time.

I still don't think that the human race is getting, on average, ruder and more self-involved. The range of selfishness which is currently considered `normal' in our culture may have drifted a bit over the past 20 years, but I seriously doubt that the capicity of humans to be selfish or selfless has changed at all.

A lot of what we all do is governed by what we think that we can get away with - the controlling forces include conscience, the disapproval of our peers, family or community, and of course, the law. I find it just as rational to have the ethic `look after No. 1' as I do, `be altrustic' - in practice, we all have to do both to some extent.

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