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"Dinosaurs on a Spaceship" was certainly fun, although I did spend most of it thinking "Gosh, isn't Solomon reminiscent of Lord Walder Frey from Game of Thrones?" It turns out there's a reason for that. I can't but help thinking that Bradley turned up for the audition and was told "You know that miserable old git you play in Game of Thrones? Same look, same voice, and, uh, same performance, please..."

Anyway, New Who over I thought I'd expose [livejournal.com profile] darth_hamster to some of the classic stuff. Since I have a DVD of Genesis of the Daleks, widely regarded as one of the best Classic Who serials ever, that seemed to be the place to start. Now, I did warn [livejournal.com profile] darth_hamster that the pacing might be a bit slow by modern standards and that the lack of budget would be rather obvious at times. What I didn't anticipate was that she'd spend most of the first episode in tears of laughter.

It soon became apparent that there is a major problem in showing Genesis of the Daleks to anyone who has not seen it before but has seen 'Allo 'Allo. To begin with you have General Ravon (Guy Siner), who is likely to be immediately recognised as Lt Gruber. As if that's not bad enough, the Kaled salute - as demonstrated by Gen Ravon below - is exactly like the rather abbreviated Nazi version performed by Capt Geering:

GOTD1 AlloAllo1

And as if things couldn't get any worse Herr Flick of the Gestapo Security Commander Nyder turns up. Actually, Nyder is rather more reminiscent of Sturmbannführer Ludwig Kessler of Secret Army but then since 'Allo 'Allo is a Secret Army parody that doesn't really help much.

When she wasn't quaking in mirth [livejournal.com profile] darth_hamster was pouring scorn on our 1975-era TARDIS crew, be it Sarah Jane Smith for trying to sneak around Skaro's battlefields in a bright yellow cagoule, or the Fourth Doctor and Harry Sullivan for seemingly forgetting all about her once they've been captured by the Kaleds. Episode 1 ended and I was pleaded to spare her the rest; I did put on the final five minutes to show what a proper Really Ranty Dalek was like, though (see below at 10:00).

Date: 2012-09-10 07:52 pm (UTC)
uitlander: (Davros)
From: [personal profile] uitlander
I suppose the Daemons is now entirely out of the question.

Happy Birthday!
Edited Date: 2012-09-10 07:52 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-10 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frandowdsofa.livejournal.com
I assumed he got Walder Frey because of his role as the school caretaker in Harry Potter. Finch, is it?

Happy Birthday!

Date: 2012-09-10 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waistcoatmark.livejournal.com
Be grateful she missed Harry's pitiful attempt at being caught by a giant clam. That scene is not going to go down as one of BBC's most convincing scenes.

Date: 2012-09-10 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorispossum.livejournal.com
Have been watching DW since episode 1, and there are much cheesier series out there than 'Genesis of the Daleks'. And the Matt Smith doctor is laying down plenty of c&H for future generations to giggle at. Watching latest romp, M suggested game of spotting how many DW actors have also been in the 'Carry On' films - aside from Bernard Cribbens. Enough that 'Carry on Doctor' is a film that really SHOULD have happened...

Date: 2012-09-10 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
Since he played the title character at the start of Doctor Who _and_ in the first Carry On film, I feel we have to mention William Hartnell here!

Date: 2012-09-10 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
Also let's not forget that Jon Pertwee was in a few Carry On films - certainly Cowboy and Screaming.

Others I can think of off the top of my head (and this is a cruel thing to do to a Who and Carry On fan at this time of night...):

Joan Sims was in Trial of a Time Lord
Peter Butterworth was the original baddy Time Lord, the Meddling Monk
Bernard Bresslaw was an Ice Warrior in one of the Troughton Ice Warrior stories
Windsor Davies was in Evil of the Daleks
Angela Douglas was Mrs Lethbridge-Stewart in Battlefield
Roy Castle was in one of the Peter Cushing films
Peter Gilmore was in Frontios
Maureen Lipman (The Wire and Columbus)
June Whitfield (The End of Time and Girls)
Alexei Sayle (Columbus and Revelation of the Daleks)
Edited Date: 2012-09-10 10:23 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-11 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorispossum.livejournal.com
wow - I think we may have a winner! :)

I only got Harnell (a desk sergeant?) and June Whitfield, so have been officially declared Lightweight.

Date: 2012-09-12 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brixtonbrood.livejournal.com
Pertwee was the soothsayer in Cleo.
Richard Wilson was in Columbus and the Doctor in Empty Child. Martin Clunes was in Columbus and a legendary New Romantic outfit in Snakedance.

Date: 2012-09-10 09:48 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-10 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
This is brilliantly funny. I'm going to have to link to it...

Date: 2012-09-10 10:30 pm (UTC)
deborah_c: (nonsequitur)
From: [personal profile] deborah_c
We thought he was more like Filch from Harry Potter, but there's a reason for that, too...

Date: 2012-09-11 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ben-jeapes.livejournal.com
Another of GotD's little quirks is the capital cities of the two great nations, at war for millennia, a short walking distance apart. But no, you can't beat the ranty Dalek.

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