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Despite having pontificated the other week about not wanting or needing a TV I am having vague longings in that direction after all. For starters, I realise that if I've spent much of the day in front of my computer I don't want to stay in front of it to watch all my TV or film. Also, you shouldn't underestimate the desirability of collapsing on the sofa to watch something, which isn't really an option with the computer route. So, when I've been near electronics stores of late, I've been having a peek at the new HDTV LCD sets to see what the fuss is all about. In doing so, I've noticed something odd.

The other day, I was in John Lewis and looking at a widescreen LCD showing Raiders of the Lost Ark.The picture looked somehow odd. Not wrong of itself, but wrong for the subject. What was meant to be a motion picture somehow looked as if it had been shot as a TV programme. In fact, that was exactly what the problem was - the HDTV was making film look like video. Everything was too crisp; worst of all the sets, no doubt designed and lit for film, looked painfully like sets.

We're all familiar with the difference between TV programmes shot on film and those shot onto videotape. It's most evident on older programmes, where the change in resolution, contrast and colour was very clear, especially if (as often used to be the case) film was used for outdoor shots and video for studio work - a lot of classic Dr Who was filmed like that. These days video cameras are much better and post-processing techniques are often used to make video look more film-like. Nonetheless, if you watch older TV - especially British programmes more than ten years old or so - you'll know what I mean.

And this was the weird thing about the HDTV I was looking at. It took an expensive Hollywood film and made it look like it had been shot by the BBC Comedy Dept around about the era of The Goodies. Technically it was an excellent picture, it just looked wrong. A bit of googling showed that I'm by no means the first to notice this, and that there's an explanation: the processing aimed to overcome LCD TV's tendency to motion blur can go too far the other way, and make the natural frame-by-frame slight blurriness of film look more like video.

It looks like this is something you may be able to twiddle on most sets, and perhaps the one I saw just wasn't set up well. But it does show that Newer isn't automatically Better, at least not in the world of video tech.

Date: 2008-03-31 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com
Oddly enough, I've never been able to see the difference between video and film, possibly because I'm generally concentrating on the script...

Date: 2008-03-31 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sbisson.livejournal.com
It's one of the reasons I've not gone HD yet. After seeing OLED screens at CES, I suspect they're what I'll wait for...

...seeing as they have performance of plasma with the power consumption of LCD.

Date: 2008-03-31 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flick.livejournal.com
I do remember (some time ago....) when my father bought a 'digital' TV. I use scare quotes because it was at least fifteen years ago, so I doubt it was what is called that today; I have no idea what it actually *was*. Anyway.

It was interesting watching, on the new TV, VHS recorded from the old TV: there were very obvious boundaries between the different shades, etc.

Not sure if it's the same thing, but it fair put us off digital for a while!

Date: 2008-04-01 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hatusu.livejournal.com
I've never noticed a resemblance to video, which I dislike, but then when I'm in the store looking at those wide screen LCD HDTV sets, I go into a trance immediately.

On Wednesday, I did get to watch the "Ark of Truth" on a friend's 44 inch digital TV. It was gorgeous. Good digital, especially played on a Blue Ray player reminds me of Cinemascope. As a kid, I was lucky to see "2001. A Space Odyssey" in its intended Cinemascope at the last theater that had it in Chicago. It felt as if I could walk right through the screen and be there. When I finally get my wide screen LCD HDTV, I'm looking for that movie, and "Continuum, of course.

Date: 2008-04-01 06:31 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drplokta
You need a TV that supports 1080p/24 (and a Blu-Ray player that also supports it). Then it will play film content at the 24 frames per second it was filmed at, and not try to digitally interpolate the "missing" frames on the TV.

Date: 2008-04-01 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aardvark179.livejournal.com
Even if you don't have /24 source and set (and most people don't notice the 3:2 pull down judder) the biggest thing you can do to improve picture quality on most HDTVs is to switch off most of video processing (especially the foul and horrible edge enhancement), and then either borrow calibration gear, hire somebody to do it, or find some settings on the net, and get things set up properly.

Shops seem to set up sets absolutely awfully, most boost the red to silly levels because that attracts people's attention, and panels these days support a much wider colour gamut than the video standards specify and shops seem honour bound to try and use all of it. The 'vivid' option on my set is like being bathed in sixties psychedelic artwork drawn by somebody who only has fluorescent markers.

Date: 2008-04-02 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicarage.livejournal.com
I spent 2 years watching TV from the sofa using a 17" laptop on a coffee table, so don“t rush into buying new kit.

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